This interview was recorded in October 2009, but was only published in July 2010 due to technical problems: several tapes were corrupted and one was lost, and the result is the best that I (Bill Ryan) have been able to do with the material.

After a vivid start, the interview is one in which Polish military historian Igor Witkowski drills down, in considerable detail, into the fascinating history of the Nazi Bell – basically an advanced, highly classified physics experiment regarded by the Nazis as being of the highest importance for reasons which are still shrouded in mystery.